![]() Which also shows why Microsoft can't really strip down Windows to base functionality because literally nobody knows what kinds of dependencies are used by what (even first-party) services and modules, not even talking about backwards compatibility with other software and driver hardware, Acrobat requiring spooler service which is removed in GhostSpectre builds), which sometimes is fixable, but sometimes not, Speaking of various cutdown/streamlined third-party Windows builds, well, they work fine untill you run into some specific dependency (like for ex. Those two completely different approaches result in mediocre compromise of Windows Home and Windows Pro, neither being that great to go with, Microsoft (unlike Apple) is not able to give "full" app toolset "for free" within Windows OS (because Microsoft can't you sell ridiculously overpriced hardware), which is where the mess really breaks down, On the other hand, significant number of users are able to tailor their system to their specific needs, and they would welcome bare bones system to build on top, ![]() On one hand, majority of users want coherent+cohesive operating system with all the useful stuff included, so having Edge, Office, OneDrive and other things included (or within one-click-install reach) can be useful for some, ![]() Hopefully modding community keeps doing their job to give us debloated windows builds.īeing both Windows and MacOS user, it's uneasy to judge what Microsoft is doing with Windows 11 now, They maybe just dont give a fuck about the normal consumer and therefore add as much bloat as they can i guess. MS is clearly expanding into the Company space - makes also the most money in that sector, being cloud services, office 360 for companies, etc Hmm Enterprise edition might be clean, but do they still require after 180days a re-authoring? Pro version works longer, but seems to be as bloated. ![]() (I dont use Edge, but a friend of mine does and i know like 8 months ago Edge was so much faster now it takes like 10sec to load a damn page, while Opera on the same system louds in an instant.) (My notebook came with win11 pro, i nuked it, installed win10 pro and kept removing bloat for 1-2 days, now its fine.)Īlso remember as Edge was faster than Chrome? Edge feels now as slow as IE with MS adding more and more shit. But i can only imagine Win11 added to that. Windows 10 Pro alone was already borderline with its stupid services and bloated software. The problem is that a "clean install" doesn't feel as clean as it used to, and unfortunately for us, it's an inside job-it's Microsoft, not third parties, that is primarily responsible for the pile of unwanted software and services you need to decline or clear away every time you do a new Windows install. You can still do a clean install of Windows, and it's arguably easier than ever, with official Microsoft-sanctioned install media easily accessible and Windows Update capable of grabbing most of the drivers that most computers need for basic functionality. Computer manufacturers also installed all kinds of additional support software, registration screens, and other things that generally extended the setup process and junked up your Start menu and desktop. This might pass some savings on to the user, but once they owned their computer, that software mainly existed to consume disk space and RAM, something that cheaper PCs could rarely afford to spare. Computer manufacturers often distributed buggy, pointless, or redundant third-party software ("bloatware" or "crapware") to help subsidize the cost of the hardware. This time-honored practice is colloquially called a "clean install," and it was a cure for most things that ailed a new Windows PC. Instead, you took a Windows install disk directly from Microsoft (a floppy, a CD, a DVD, a USB stick), and you blew away everything on the computer's internal drive, setting up a Windows installation with only the included Microsoft software and few extraneous apps (though your definition of extraneous may differ somewhat from Microsoft's). For a certain kind of computer buyer, the first thing you always did with a new laptop or desktop from a company like Dell, HP, Acer, or Asus wasn't to open the box and start using it.
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